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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 7:47:14 AM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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I am setting up exterior wall types for a prpoject. I have a ribbed metal panel wall that I am debating whether to set up with wall sweeps vs. no wall sweeps and then just using a repeating detail in 2D. I am leaning toward the repeating detail. ONe reaosn is because when I set a repearting sweep to denote the ribbed wall exterior, the structure and sub-strate part of the wall are independent of the sweep. Refer to the attached file

 

Is there a way to have the profile track the height of the wall? Would several instances of a wall with a wall sweep weigh am model down?

 

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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:20:02 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Hi, "attached file" it's good so i can understand the real problem, some images of what do you need/want???

 


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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:03:17 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:04:57 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:41:33 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:44:56 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Imbeding wall sweeps makes the file larger. Is it necessary? The wall sweep is not attached to the top of the wall. Is there a way to do this?

 On the flip side, is there a way to imbed a 2D profile into a wall type so that when its cut in section, the ribs would show? 

 The obvious solution would be to draw a 2D repeating detail in every wall section instance. I am skirting around having to do this.


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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 7:59:04 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Hi, see the videos: 1º video: http://screencast.com/t/pjQ1ypNqO7

2º video:  http://screencast.com/t/PbHyn1cX

I can't right now, like you will see in the video, open your profiles but when i finish the render in 2009 i take a look...

 


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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:33:27 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Typhoon, thanks for your help. I set up my wall by applying a sweep in the wall editor, like you described first. I would like to have the profile always cover the entire face of the wall. I may have walls of different heights and the height of the profile is always set.

I suppose I could add a parameter linked to a linear array that defines the profile where the top and bottom / begining and end of the array are defined by the top and bottom of the wall. I'm not sure if this is possible.


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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:11:59 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Hi, you can create a parameter to control the "Lenght" of the profile BUT the problem is you only can control that distance if this is a "Type" parameter and not a "Instance", wish means you change the lenght of that type in the all model, what you can do is after insert the profile in the model is going to the project browser and duplicate the profile, change the lenght of them and assign diferents "Sweeps" to the walls, you you have few different wall, well it's easy, the problem is if you have a LOT of different wall with different sweeps(lenghts)...

 


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Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:13:21 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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I have lots of different wall heights and do not want to have to chase them around as things change. I have an  idea. I will post if its of value. Thanks for your interest Typhoon!

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Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:19:46 AM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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See attached profile. It almost works, except... in order to attach a parameter to the array, the arrayed pieces have to be grouped. If they are grouped, they are not recognized as a profile. Also, the array only works with whole feet.

Any thoughts on tweaking the profile? Am I missing anything?



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Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:35:15 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Well, don't work because the groups, but you allways have the problem of the fixed distance, in this case, and like you have severals "Heights" of walls i use "Curtain Walls", see the image attached...

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Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:37:25 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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I am not sure I understand, but I attempted to resolve this by adding a parameter to the array that divides the "unconnected height" of the wall by the spacing of the profile.

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Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:44:43 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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What i try to say is USE Curtain Walls....

 


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Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:02:42 PM | Repeatig wall sweep vs. repeating detail - wall attached

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Would you attach your curtainwall file?

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