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Revit 09 Has anyone run into this issue: I want to create 2 CD sets within the same Revit file - one an 11x17, the other a 22x34. I am duplicating views with dependencies so that i am generating both size CD sets simultaneously, however when i go to number the sheets, Revit will not allow me to have 2 sheets with the # - i.e. i can't have (2) A2.0's....thoughts?
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We make are reduced drawing sets when we output as pdfs. Our reduced plans are actually 12"x18" instead of 11"x17" which allows us to do a 50% reduction. This is much easier than making duplicate sheets of everything. Anyway that's how we deal with the problem, I'm curious to hear how other people do it too.
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I think dano3d has it right. Why would you ever want to do two different set? Seems like that is just trouble in the makking. We do full size and half size prints and mark the sets accordingly.
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We just do a 50% reduction in the PDF as well. If you trying to do it they way you are, you'll also run into the problem of not being able to change the scale of the dependant view without changing all of the other dependant views. When working with dependants, the scales stay the same throughout all dependants, so your way wont really work either. You could duplicate with detailing, BUT if you add any notes or demensions to one view, you have to make the changes in multiple views, which kinda defeats the purpose. So there really isn't a good way of doing it in Revit with sheets and views. You can scale sheets in Revit instead of PDF's if you wanted to, under the print you can set the Zoom to 50%.
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Duplicating views with dependencies really takes the 'double work' out of the picture - you draw one and it draws both (for the most part). The reason for our duplicate sets is that the larger sets are sent in for permit, while the smaller sets are sent to the clients - the smaller sets also have more detail that the city doesn't need to see (schedules, and construction techniques, etc.). Both need to be accurate and appear very professional - we don't like showing drawings with a title 'NOT TO SCALE', or 'HALF SIZE', or no scale at all.... I have developed a work-around - just put a space in the Sheet Number (i.e. A2.0 & A 2.0)....i still don't really like it though.
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bradley...when you dupilcate with detailing you're gonna take the 'double work' out of setting up the sheets, but you're gonna have double the work of going into each view and constantly changing the scales back and forth depending on what size you want to print out...have you noticed that yet? If you're doing it the way you're describing it, when you change the scale on the half size views, it will also change the scale on all other dependant views. So everytime you print, you will have to go through and change the scales for every view in your project. I guess if you're a residential architect doing a project with 10 drawing sheets, it might not be so bad, but if your firm does medium to large projects, that sounds like a total headache to me!
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Yeah, i totally agree - it's definately more work any way you slice it....that's why I'm trying to figure out the easiest, fastest, best solution while still making the boss happy.... I have run into the scale issue with the Duplicate with Dependency, as well as some Design Option issues - my thought being that we don't break the link with the 2 views until we are complete with the project and ready to submit, at which point we sever the connection and make the necessary adjustments (yes, unfortunately that means that revisions need to be made, or noted, twice). I'm also trying to keep as many views the same scale as possible - really big on 11x17, really small on 22x34....
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Wow, ever heard anyone do that before? We also do a 50% reduction, on our titleblock the scale reads 1:100@A1 & 1:200@A3. If differently people require different information that I'd still only have one set and just not issue certain drawings to certain people? It just sounds like you are making a lot of work for yourself and leaving youself wide open to co-ordination issues. Detail groups might help a little if you really must go down this path... My 2 cents.
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I would have to say that a permit set and a client set taht are actually different (with more detail you say) should actually be 2 separate series of naming anyway - otherwise how do you track which is issued? Having said that we sometimnes have to do a colour version and a b/w version for client council - these are identical drawings except for the colur I just put a full stop (period) after the drawings number - it's vitually undetectable. A-01 and A-01.
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I know this thread is 4 years old, but I have the same problem now and thought I've revive it so see if anyone has come
up with any better ideas in the intervening years.
We have a fast-tracked project in which the documents will be broken down into 3 different permit packages:
a foundation package, an interior remodeling package, and a final exterior remodeling package. I'm trying to do all three
document sets in one Revit file as I want all three to stay fully coordinated. Using the Phases feature for all this of
course. As the design develops for the interior remodeling, changes will occur that will impact the foundation set
(hopefully before the concrete actually gets poured!), and we'll have to issue revised sheets.
As an example, the basement plan for the foundation set will show just new exterior retaining/foundtion walls and a
bare slab. The interior set will show the foundation walls and slab as existing, and add the new interior walls and build
out. Finally, the exterior set will show the interior work as existing and show new windows and exterior doors added.
All three sheets are the "Basement Plan" in their individual set and therefore want to have the same A2.0 sheet
number.
So the current advise was to number one A2.0, the next A 2.0 (space added), and the third A2.0. (extra period).
Any better ideas out there?
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Andrew
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I think your method is not easily seen.
If you have full sets, then maybe a proceeding set descriptor would be better like 1A1, 2A1 etc. In this would also allow the sets to be sorted in your browser.
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I think your method is not easily seen.
If you have full sets, then maybe a proceeding set descriptor would be better like 1A1, 2A1 etc. In this would also allow the sets to be sorted in your browser.
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Great Advice
Another approach I have taken in the past was to have a seperate model for each construction issuance. Mostly shell and core then interior buildouts per area that where then phased. This way a Revit model only contains items pertinent to that issuance when sharing models. My 2 cents  So many ways to do things and varied results.
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I have made a Builder's Set with extreme dimensioning, and schedules, and called it B series.
I have also made for the Interior Designer's a set called ID, they are different in that the Interior designer's want all walls interior views, and cabinets, that they can adjust. This set is important to the owner's as well.
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